February, 2021 - Offline, The Podcast

Artist Bobby Clark on speaking your truth and why we need to stop trying to do the “right” thing.

Host Alison Rice has an honest conversation with artist, photographer and mum, Bobby Clark. In this episode, Bobby encourages us all to speak our truth and shares why we need to stop trying to do the “right” thing. She also encourages us to make mistakes because they help us discover the thing that makes our work unique.

Bobby is one of Melbourne’s leading artists, but as she so beautifully demonstrates in this episode, her paintings aren’t the only thing she has to say.

This conversation is full season six energy. Unbounded, unscripted and real. Alison and Bobby speak for 90 minutes and every one of them is worth your time. Why? Because it’s important that we hear what a truly empowered woman sounds like without the filter and controlled messaging.

From boobs and bodies, pregnancy and pregnancy loss, sex after birth, dealing with judgement from strangers on social media, therapy, love, the complexities of the art world, pricing her work, feeling embarrassed about her work, navigating not being taken seriously as an artist. . . it’s all here.

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P.S. Alison also shares some special personal news in this episode!

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Natalie Fornasier on living with stage four melanoma and what really matters in life.

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In this honest conversation, Natalie Fornasier opens up about living with stage four melanoma and what she’s learnt actually matters in life.

Natalie is a talented young writer and self-described skinfluencer (the sun safety kind) who is using her growing social footprint to advocate for those experiencing chronic and terminal illness.

This honest conversation focuses on the present. On surviving. On what it means to accept your own mortality. Nat opens up about her relationship with death, the spectrum of diversity through the eyes of the chronically ill, navigating friendships that aren’t equipped to hold space for her experience, how she, in turn, thinks about holding space for her partner’s experience both within her illness and also separate to it, what it’s really like trying to establish a career when you have cancer and what she’s learnt actually matters in life.

Every episode of Offline seeks to educate and inform, but Alison hopes this one also offers perspective. When we really get down to it, what else matters but our health and the health of the people we love?

It’s World Cancer Day on February 4, but we know we can prevent skin cancer everyday. Melanoma is the third most common cancer in women. Please wear sunscreen and keep your precious skin out of the sun.

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P.S. If you’d like to learn Nat’s full story, including how her melanoma first presented itself, Alison encourages you to read the interviews and personal essays made possible by sun safety education initiative Call Time on Melanoma on Byrdie Beauty.